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Applying athlete’s methods to SIF counselling

Based on above research, here is my analogy on how to apply counselling of
new SIF members. It is at best an analogy so should not be taken too far.

1. First let the new member develop Broad External view of the whole
scenario – lawyers, police, courts, the system; why things are they way they
are. Do not rely too much on giving specific and deep legal advice. that
belongs to domain of narrow external. The person cannot digest it, and even
if he understands some of it he is NOT READY YET to apply in practice. But
do give basic legal advice at this stage so person can survive for now, and
read up legal stuff for next 2-3 months. Focus should be on interacting
with other members, and living life day to day without any hurry to solve
the case, or trying to get a quick fix for all the problems like 498a, DV
etc!

2. Broad Internal is where older members discuss their own success
stories on filing DP3, TEP, RTIs on opponents, wins in courts etc. Also
new member going to courts in others’ cases and seeing how the court
procedures happen, how lawyers talk, their competence/incompetence, how
judges give next dates, judges’ attitudes etc and so on. It sets the stage
for further training of the new member.

3. Once person has some hang of the broad external and broad internal,
he can be prepared for Narrow External. How to apply the techniques – TEPs,
RTI on opponent party etc. for HIS OWN case. He is now able to get it by
own research and interaction with SIF members. By now he should have
created good rapport with at least few other SIF members with whom he can
discuss his case, and they also know his case by now.

4. The final stage is applying the techniques in Narrow Internal
domain. convincing your own family members about your approach, actual
filing of RTI and follow up, going to court in your own cases; convincing
lawyer, mediator, CAW cell about what YOU want and how YOU want things to be
done.

What happens if we do not follow a broad approach like above. We may tell a
new member on first day to file RTI on opponent party, or techniques to deal
with lawyer or mediator. But when he goes home and his parents/ siblings
are the first to tell him he is out of his mind, or this SIF is some bunch
of crazy people. That he should pay money to wife and remarry, and move on
with his life. Actually he is not yet ready to apply the SIF’s techniques,
and he is unable to convince even own family members. This process takes
3-6 months at least, and in the meantime it is enough if he comes to
meetings and does above things.

Regards,

Yodha

Based on above research, here is my analogy on how to apply counselling of
new SIF members. It is at best an analogy so should not be taken too far.

1. First let the new member develop Broad External view of the whole
scenario – lawyers, police, courts, the system; why things are they way they
are. Do not rely too much on giving specific and deep legal advice. that
belongs to domain of narrow external. The person cannot digest it, and even
if he understands some of it he is NOT READY YET to apply in practice. But
do give basic legal advice at this stage so person can survive for now, and
read up legal stuff for next 2-3 months. Focus should be on interacting
with other members, and living life day to day without any hurry to solve
the case, or trying to get a quick fix for all the problems like 498a, DV
etc!

2. Broad Internal is where older members discuss their own success
stories on filing DP3, TEP, RTIs on opponents, wins in courts etc. Also
new member going to courts in others’ cases and seeing how the court
procedures happen, how lawyers talk, their competence/incompetence, how
judges give next dates, judges’ attitudes etc and so on. It sets the stage
for further training of the new member.

3. Once person has some hang of the broad external and broad internal,
he can be prepared for Narrow External. How to apply the techniques – TEPs,
RTI on opponent party etc. for HIS OWN case. He is now able to get it by
own research and interaction with SIF members. By now he should have
created good rapport with at least few other SIF members with whom he can
discuss his case, and they also know his case by now.

4. The final stage is applying the techniques in Narrow Internal
domain. convincing your own family members about your approach, actual
filing of RTI and follow up, going to court in your own cases; convincing
lawyer, mediator, CAW cell about what YOU want and how YOU want things to be
done.

What happens if we do not follow a broad approach like above. We may tell a
new member on first day to file RTI on opponent party, or techniques to deal
with lawyer or mediator. But when he goes home and his parents/ siblings
are the first to tell him he is out of his mind, or this SIF is some bunch
of crazy people. That he should pay money to wife and remarry, and move on
with his life. Actually he is not yet ready to apply the SIF’s techniques,
and he is unable to convince even own family members. This process takes
3-6 months at least, and in the meantime it is enough if he comes to
meetings and does above things.

Regards,

Yodha

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